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		<title>By: Owen</title>
		<link>http://www.afrigadget.com/2006/06/04/playpumps/comment-page-1/#comment-15831</link>
		<dc:creator>Owen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just re-reading this, thought I&#039;d add a few links to some writing I&#039;ve been doing about the Playpump, including a user review of the PlayPump by a rural African woman.

A general discussion of the technology: http://thoughtsfrommalawi.blogspot.com/2009/08/playpump.html

A user-review by a rural African woman (from Chikwawa district, Malawi):
http://thoughtsfrommalawi.blogspot.com/2009/10/playpump-ii.html

A post about the challenges of getting the real story when  visiting these things:
http://thoughtsfrommalawi.blogspot.com/2009/11/playpump-iii-challenge-of-taking-photos.html

Thanks,

Owen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just re-reading this, thought I&#8217;d add a few links to some writing I&#8217;ve been doing about the Playpump, including a user review of the PlayPump by a rural African woman.</p>
<p>A general discussion of the technology: <a href="http://thoughtsfrommalawi.blogspot.com/2009/08/playpump.html" rel="nofollow">http://thoughtsfrommalawi.blogspot.com/2009/08/playpump.html</a></p>
<p>A user-review by a rural African woman (from Chikwawa district, Malawi):<br />
<a href="http://thoughtsfrommalawi.blogspot.com/2009/10/playpump-ii.html" rel="nofollow">http://thoughtsfrommalawi.blogspot.com/2009/10/playpump-ii.html</a></p>
<p>A post about the challenges of getting the real story when  visiting these things:<br />
<a href="http://thoughtsfrommalawi.blogspot.com/2009/11/playpump-iii-challenge-of-taking-photos.html" rel="nofollow">http://thoughtsfrommalawi.blogspot.com/2009/11/playpump-iii-challenge-of-taking-photos.html</a></p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Owen</p>
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		<title>By: Lindsey Gregory</title>
		<link>http://www.afrigadget.com/2006/06/04/playpumps/comment-page-1/#comment-13310</link>
		<dc:creator>Lindsey Gregory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 17:30:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This contraption seems to use child labor. That is BAD.</description>
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		<title>By: Playground Pump - Dogpile Web Search</title>
		<link>http://www.afrigadget.com/2006/06/04/playpumps/comment-page-1/#comment-11373</link>
		<dc:creator>Playground Pump - Dogpile Web Search</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 16:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] 60+ Sports. One Cart.      Sponsored by: Amazon.com/sports/  [Found on Ads by Google]     2.  Playpumps  AfriGadget Archive    One project that particularly caught my eye on the site was the Playground Pump  a water [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Paul van Beers</title>
		<link>http://www.afrigadget.com/2006/06/04/playpumps/comment-page-1/#comment-8022</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul van Beers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 08:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Discussion Play-Pump continued ...

(To Rebecca Ryan and others who reacted)

What a lot of people in the WatSan Sector dont like, is the &quot;exploitation&quot; of the water needs in Africa. This is clearly the case with the extreamly expensive and not sustainable Play-Pump. There are many things not OK, like for insance they claim to &quot;give&quot; to 2.500 people per pump water. This is nonsense. It shows that they have no idea on what they are talking about. Kids are at school and may use the wheel for one a short time before and after classes, before getting dizzy. if the pump gives a max of 1,5 m3/h, you are lucky to get a max of 1000 liters per day, which may serve 50 to 100 persons.

Any normal handpump will do the same, but is easier to use by others and so much cheaper! Imagine that with the Playpump, man, woman etc. first have to sit and get dizzy before they can have some water. Sorry...

A normal handpump serves everyone and is easier to maintain. Money counts in the end, we know that in Africa, but the people who sell the Ppaypump only see their own profit, seems??, or maybe they are not well informed and have seen Africa only from pictures and Kruger Safaris?

The problem is always maintenance, and handpumps were also problematic because of frequent breakdowns. That is why we promote a new maintenance free handpump, the AFRIPUMP, made in Holland, yes, the country that has some experience with water, which is now available for Africa.

More info on our website www.handpump.org

Sincerely
Paul van Beers
WatSan Consult

p.s. The good aspect of the Playpump is the advertising that could raise some money. On the  Afripump this advertising is also possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Discussion Play-Pump continued &#8230;</p>
<p>(To Rebecca Ryan and others who reacted)</p>
<p>What a lot of people in the WatSan Sector dont like, is the &#8220;exploitation&#8221; of the water needs in Africa. This is clearly the case with the extreamly expensive and not sustainable Play-Pump. There are many things not OK, like for insance they claim to &#8220;give&#8221; to 2.500 people per pump water. This is nonsense. It shows that they have no idea on what they are talking about. Kids are at school and may use the wheel for one a short time before and after classes, before getting dizzy. if the pump gives a max of 1,5 m3/h, you are lucky to get a max of 1000 liters per day, which may serve 50 to 100 persons.</p>
<p>Any normal handpump will do the same, but is easier to use by others and so much cheaper! Imagine that with the Playpump, man, woman etc. first have to sit and get dizzy before they can have some water. Sorry&#8230;</p>
<p>A normal handpump serves everyone and is easier to maintain. Money counts in the end, we know that in Africa, but the people who sell the Ppaypump only see their own profit, seems??, or maybe they are not well informed and have seen Africa only from pictures and Kruger Safaris?</p>
<p>The problem is always maintenance, and handpumps were also problematic because of frequent breakdowns. That is why we promote a new maintenance free handpump, the AFRIPUMP, made in Holland, yes, the country that has some experience with water, which is now available for Africa.</p>
<p>More info on our website <a href="http://www.handpump.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.handpump.org</a></p>
<p>Sincerely<br />
Paul van Beers<br />
WatSan Consult</p>
<p>p.s. The good aspect of the Playpump is the advertising that could raise some money. On the  Afripump this advertising is also possible.</p>
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		<title>By: Nouvelle page 0</title>
		<link>http://www.afrigadget.com/2006/06/04/playpumps/comment-page-1/#comment-7650</link>
		<dc:creator>Nouvelle page 0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 06:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: rebecca ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>rebecca ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 12:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am very interested in this water pump and it sounds good.  And I would like to find out how to contact Paul van Beers to find out more about why he doesn&#039;t like it and what he suggests is more sustainable.  Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am very interested in this water pump and it sounds good.  And I would like to find out how to contact Paul van Beers to find out more about why he doesn&#8217;t like it and what he suggests is more sustainable.  Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: The Oil Drum: Europe &#124; Electricity in Uganda</title>
		<link>http://www.afrigadget.com/2006/06/04/playpumps/comment-page-1/#comment-7226</link>
		<dc:creator>The Oil Drum: Europe &#124; Electricity in Uganda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 00:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] and other parts, and could be used for other work. &#039;Kids, charge Mommy and Daddy&#039;s phones please!&#039; http://www.afrigadget.com/2006/06/04/playpumps/ (This also can be found through some United Nations programmes. This is just the first one that [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] and other parts, and could be used for other work. &#8216;Kids, charge Mommy and Daddy&#8217;s phones please!&#8217; <a href="http://www.afrigadget.com/2006/06/04/playpumps/" rel="nofollow">http://www.afrigadget.com/2006/06/04/playpumps/</a> (This also can be found through some United Nations programmes. This is just the first one that [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--></p>
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		<title>By: Paul van Beers</title>
		<link>http://www.afrigadget.com/2006/06/04/playpumps/comment-page-1/#comment-5718</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul van Beers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jun 2007 18:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comment on the &quot;Playpump&quot;

We appreciate the attention for the school water problem, but this &quot;Playpump&quot; is realy not the way to go.

It has been tried out many years ago in South Africa and it didnt work for many reasons.

- after a while, kids dont see the fun anymore
- tanks always empty, so you have to play before
  you can drink
- if other people want water, theu have to look
  for some kids to play first.
- the tanks are leaking, also through the taps
  and water is lost
- advertisement only available in populated
  areas, but there is often piped water, so 
  no need for this expensive system
- it is extremly expensive
- you have to buy 10 at the time at 8.000 to 
  10.000 US$ each, so it makes no sense for
  one school
- maintenance is very complicated and expensive
  after some years nobodfy will take care of
  it, but &quot;who realy cares anyway...?&quot;

Conclussion:

It is a WatSan fake product, but very well presented by some clecer business guys who have no idea what the real problems and challaenges are in Africa.

These business man probably could care less that the money could be so much better spend for real sustainable activities, as long as they have their profits.

WatSan Consult
Paul van Beers 
25 years experience in Rural Africa)

www.handpump.org

www.watsan.org</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comment on the &#8220;Playpump&#8221;</p>
<p>We appreciate the attention for the school water problem, but this &#8220;Playpump&#8221; is realy not the way to go.</p>
<p>It has been tried out many years ago in South Africa and it didnt work for many reasons.</p>
<p>- after a while, kids dont see the fun anymore<br />
- tanks always empty, so you have to play before<br />
  you can drink<br />
- if other people want water, theu have to look<br />
  for some kids to play first.<br />
- the tanks are leaking, also through the taps<br />
  and water is lost<br />
- advertisement only available in populated<br />
  areas, but there is often piped water, so<br />
  no need for this expensive system<br />
- it is extremly expensive<br />
- you have to buy 10 at the time at 8.000 to<br />
  10.000 US$ each, so it makes no sense for<br />
  one school<br />
- maintenance is very complicated and expensive<br />
  after some years nobodfy will take care of<br />
  it, but &#8220;who realy cares anyway&#8230;?&#8221;</p>
<p>Conclussion:</p>
<p>It is a WatSan fake product, but very well presented by some clecer business guys who have no idea what the real problems and challaenges are in Africa.</p>
<p>These business man probably could care less that the money could be so much better spend for real sustainable activities, as long as they have their profits.</p>
<p>WatSan Consult<br />
Paul van Beers<br />
25 years experience in Rural Africa)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.handpump.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.handpump.org</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.watsan.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.watsan.org</a></p>
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		<title>By: Max Senges: Xmax mail 2006</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max Senges: Xmax mail 2006</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2007 03:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] SocialEdge &amp; AfriGadget are two blogs that implement the creative MakeZine spirit to sustainability and development. Both sites collect instances of social entrepreneurship &amp; innovative technology application at its best. Here is one I liked best: One project that particularly caught my eye on the site was the &quot;Playground Pump&quot; ... a water pump that&#039;s generated from a children&#039;s playground merry-go-round [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Sir XXX</title>
		<link>http://www.afrigadget.com/2006/06/04/playpumps/comment-page-1/#comment-395</link>
		<dc:creator>Sir XXX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jan 2007 13:12:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris the advertising/public service announcements on the side of the tanks to pay for the pumps is one of the best things about this scheme. It is vital to ensure that projects like this are at the very least self sustaining after the initial investment. In future they may even become profit making. Clean water and a source of income which can be reinvested in the community. 


Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris the advertising/public service announcements on the side of the tanks to pay for the pumps is one of the best things about this scheme. It is vital to ensure that projects like this are at the very least self sustaining after the initial investment. In future they may even become profit making. Clean water and a source of income which can be reinvested in the community. </p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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